4-3-3

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  1. davids01 Well-Known Member

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    Id like to see us try something different. At the moment i very much doubt we will try a new formation as the whole pre season was spent playing the 442 or 4411. But with Bentley and Jenas moving on do we have another viable option for right mid if Lennon gets injured or carries on with his poor form. Also what happened to Dos Santos today?? It was suggested that there were moves on the table for him, but he has stayed for another half season at least. So for the next match against Wolves id like to see us work on a 4333.


    Friedel

    Corluka--- Dawson --Bassong ---BAE

    --------------Huddlestone-----------
    ------------Parker ------Modric -----

    Dos Santos ----Adebayor ------Bale


    I think this could really work! A lot depends on weather Dos Santos really has a role at the club. Also the new young Spanish kid would do well in the formation playing on either side as an inside forward. Then if hudd aint fit chuck in Livermore till Sandro comes back. Anyways just a thought
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    That formation illustrates what a great shame it was that we couldn't persuade Mata to come here. A good purchase by the Chavs. Possibly the best of this window, with Ruiz comnig a close second. We shall see in the fullness of time.
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    Not to burst your bubble, but we really need to get back to what works.

    So I will be SHOCKED if we don't go for 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 vs. Wolves.

    It should be either...

    --------------Friedel-----------
    Corluka-Dawson-Kaboul-BAE
    Lennon-Modric-Parker-Bale
    -----------Kranjcar/GDS------
    ---------Adebayor------------

    OR

    --------------Friedel-----------
    Corluka-Dawson-Kaboul-BAE
    Lennon-Modric-Parker-Bale
    ---Adebayor-----Defoe------
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    Defoe was decent agaisnt City so I think we might be going back to a 4-4-2 against Wolves. Also gives Bale and Lennon another target to aim at.
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    The $64,000 question is whether Lennon is injured or not; Physioroom seems to think he still has a groin-strain (is this why he came off against City?)

    When thinking about it, that 4-3-3 suggested at the top is one of the few formations we can field that makes sense. If Lennon and VdV are injured, we've really no-one to play RW (Niko at a massive stretch). Again, whether GdS is thrust back in to the plans remains to be seen.
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    I'd love to see us try it but I don't see that happening. But I guess that is what Football Manager is for right?
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    Quite honestly, the only reason we play 4-4-1-1 is to accomodate VDV. In his absence 'Arry will go for the tried and tested (for him) 4-4-2.
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    Word is that Sandro will be fit for Wolves, don't know about Gallas or King but by god we need them as Dawson has been atrocious and Kaboul not much better!

    I would go with

    Friedel
    Walker, Gallas, King, (Kaboul), BAE
    Parker, Sandro,
    Modric, Defoe, Bale,
    Adebayor

    With Parker and Sandro getting behind the ball in the way that Barry and Yaya did for City it would allow the four attacking players more freedom to interchange, and Walker would offer good options overlapping down the right.
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    If he can do it on the left then i see no problem to try him on the right, he only started to play left wing when he came to England for some reason.

    But as i watched that one game where Corluka was searching for teammates to throw the ball to from the side, he completely ignored a free Niko and gave the ball away to Roman in that case who was well marked.

    They can say that everything is cool between them but that throw in showed something else to me.

    Anyway the point is Corluka and Niko would have to play together on the right, not the best friends in the past and it could backfire but till its not tried out we will never know.

    I forgot about their speed, boy oh boy would that be a slow attacking side.. but if it does the job and creates goals who the hell cares..
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    Really? Well that's a bonus. It will be interesting to see how 'Arry uses Thudd, Parker and Sandro this season, given all three can't play unless Modric suffers from a 'head isn't right' injury.
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    Looks pretty good actually.

    I've always liked the idea of having one out-and-out winger, like Bale. Then on the other side an inverted winger, which dos Santos is. It would give some variation in attack that I think we lack.

    I know its been talked about to death, but we might as well use Gio in some shape or form if he's here. We have zero competition for Lennon, and Lennon needs a kick up the arse to be honest.

    Unfortunately, we know Harry will go 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2. Rightly so to be honest, because throwing that team out against Wolves where we are desperate for a win, would be too risky. Europa maybe?
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    Dont think GDS has a role at the club, nor a squad number right now.......and I dont think Harry would play this formation when we have our best XI players fit.
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    yup this. harry would rather shove modric to the right than change formations
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    So nobody is interested in playing VDV anymore?
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    I thought the same, but he is probably injured..

    There is no other way to explain him missing in all these formations..
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    well davids isnt a fan of him, but it would be interesting to see VDV play in a 3 man midfield. VDV and Modric with a holding midfielder like Sandro would be great if we had the rest of the puzzle ie, a right winger capable of playing well higher up the pitch and actually being effective in a Spurs top.
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    Yeah Rafa could play in a 3 man midfield with Sandro and Modric. But I'm a bigger fan of Huddlestone. Problem with Hudd is he hasn't been fit for 9 months. But yeah 3 man central mid with sandro and modric could work.
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    I think we could get away with playing Modric/VDV/Sandro against any side in the PL bar United & City.
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    VDV certainly won't be fit for Wolves, after that he would be in competition for one of the 4 attacking roles with Modric, Bale, Defoe, Ade and Lennon. Think we have to get away from a rigid thinking of Bale on the left and Lennon or AN Other on the right, city just had Nasri, Aguero, Silva and Dzeko running riot all across the front line, admittedly not difficult against Modric and Kranjcar.
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    Really like this one, but i don't think harry will try it, because i doubt dos santos will be in the first team... but i hope it.
    For me 4-2-3-1 is the best:
    Parker - Huddlestone
    Lennon / VdV - Modric - Bale
    Adebayor

    It's like a 4-3-3 because i don't think modric would play so offensive in this formation..
    I think against Wolves we will play:

    Friedel
    Walker - Dawson - Kaboul - BAE
    Lennon - Parker - Huddlestone - Bale
    Defoe - Adebayor

    Subs: Gomes - Corluka - Bassong - Pavlyuchenko - Modric - Livermore - Kranjcar

    .................................................................................................................................

    If everyone would be fit we will play:
    Friedel
    Walker / Charlie - Dawson - King - Bae
    Lennon - Sandro - Modric - Bale
    VdV
    Ade

    or
    Same defense
    Sandro / Hudd - Parker
    VdV / Lennon - Modric - Bale
    Ade
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    Does Harry even change formation???!! Every time I see a game he always plays 442 or 4411 even when there are times where a 4231 formation would be better, anyways I personally would prefer a 4231( if all fit) and 443

    ---------------freidel------------------
    Walker----Dawson---king------BAE
    ----------Parker-----sandro----
    ---modric----VDV------bale-------
    --------------adebayor------------ Modric and VDV can switch roles


    ---------------freidel--------------
    Walker--Dawson---king----BAE
    -------------sandro-------------
    ------- Parker-----modric-----
    Lennon----adebayor----bale--- Parker could be switched with VDV and Lennon could be switched with GDS
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    in a perfect situation against team like Wolves if we are pushing 4-3-3 I would like to see something like this:

    -----------------friedel-------------------
    corluka------gallas-------king---------bae
    ------------------sandro-----------------
    -----------parker--------modric-----------
    vdv-------------adebayor-------------bale

    at current situation considering injures an form of players:

    -----------------friedel-------------------
    corluka------dawson------kaboul-------bae
    -----------------livermore-----------------
    -----------parker--------modric-----------
    lennon----------adebayor-------------bale

    or middle 3 change to

    -----------parker--------modric-----------
    -----------------kranjcar-----------------

    Problem is, as someone mentioned above, Lennon. On RW, or on LW but there is Bale so let's not mess there, some sort of inverted winger that dos't give so much power by the line but is great at going at the middle and becoming if necessary second striker and that is something Lennon or Bale can't do. This is only if VDV is out. If he is in then problem is solved :). Now when I take a better look at our perfect team, IMHO, 4-3-3 is something I would be very excited to see on the pitch.
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    you should play formation depend wich players you have. if bale and lennon ar healthy than 442 or 4411. if one missing than you should play 433 or 4312 or 451.
    4312- 4 back
    parker(sandro)...... hudd(sandro, modrić)..... modrić(bale, sandro, kranjčar)
    vdv(modrić, kranjčar,gio)
    ade(pav) bale(defoe,gio)
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    thats almost the samo formation like 4411
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    i mean 4231 is almost the same as 4411 and for tottenham is 4411 better
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    @ Gremo

    -----------------friedel-------------------
    corluka------gallas-------king---------bae
    ------------------sandro-----------------
    -----------parker--------modric-----------
    vdv-------------adebayor-------------bale

    I believe this would kick arse. I'd like to see VdV out as an inverted right winger
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    They're similar, but for us 4-2-3-1 would be awful. For a club like City where you play Nasri and Silva wide, it works great but our wing players are so dependent on their pace that we a) have to play them near the midfield line to give them room to run and b) have to keep them near the touchline, again, so they have enough space. If we had Niko and Rafa in the wide roles, 4-2-3-1 would make a lot more sense, I think, but as it is, we have to go 4-4-1-1. That said, what the hell, how's this look?

    Friedel
    Walker, Dawson, Kaboul, BAE
    Modric/Huddlestone, Parker/Sandro
    Rafa, Defoe, Kranjcar
    Adebayor

    Could be worth a shout when Bale suffers his inevitable injury this year and is out for a month. :p
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    I can't believe so many people are leaving VDV out of their starting line up..... are they mad! He gives us so much, let alone the goals he put away last year. I'd pick him over GDS/Hudd/Lennon any day. My Choice would be:

    --------------Freidel---------------
    Walker---Dawson---King---BAE--
    ----Parker---Modric----Bale----
    ---------------VDV----------------
    -------Defoe------Adebayor----- How does that look?

    Maybe moving it around so Sandro can get a place instead of having 2 strikers up front. I feel we need a good tackler as the other mids are all fairly small.
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    Shite.... bale in a 3 man central midfield won't happen. Either VDV plays a wide role Up front or in the middle with two defensive midfielders.
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    I did add the possibility of maybe taking Defoe out and play Sandro behind Parker and Modric. That would give us more stability, would be my best formation if they were all fit.

    --------------Freidel---------------
    Walker---Dawson---King---BAE--
    -------------Sandro---------------
    ----Parker---Modric----Bale----
    ---------------VDV----------------
    ------------Adebayor-------------

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