Club over Country?

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  1. dan-spur Well-Known Member

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    What is more important to you - club or country?

    For me it's the same, I spend more time watching Spurs and thinking and talking about Spurs but that's because internationals aren't played as often. When the world cup or the Euro's come around I suppor the England team with just as much enthusiasm as Spurs - even though we are shiiiiiiiit most of the time. I hate Arsenal as much as the next guy but have no problems with Arsenal players at all and the likes of Walcott and Willshire are great prospects so I wish them all the best in an England shirt.

    Having said that I would love to see some Tottenham players cement their places in the England team. I don't take club rivalries into international football but it is that little bit extra special when a Spurs player has a good game for England but I think we're a while away from seeing that just at the moment.

    Next month we've got Wales - won't it be strange to be facing Bale?
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    Club ..... The country's so f***ed up I left year's ago ................ can anyone explain what being 'English', which is not even a legally recognized nationality you have to be 'British', so explain what does being 'English' mean these days?
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    England's fucked up so you went to live in Thailand?? lol! That makes sense (not)!
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    I have lost all love for the international team. Every manager who comes in says he will only pick players on form.

    Well the postman Pat why do you insist on picking Rooney, Lampard, Terry and Johnson when every bloody one of them has had a shocker of a season.

    Even though I'm not his biggest fan Jenas has played really well recently, Dawson has been class since his injury (Fulham game aside) Kyle Walker has been much better than Johnson, Downing has been better than Millner.

    But no the 4 eyed overpaid useless tosser picks the same underperformers as always.

    Well done now as we won let's all get excited and tell everyone we will win the Euros then struggle to qualify for the tournament and if we do get there fail badly then blame it on tue manager when the players are more to blame in my eyes.
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    Hmmm let me see constant good weather, cheap high quality food and drink, fantastic standard of living, beautiful beaches, nice people we even have Marks and Spencer, Tesco and Waitrose .... and (question of taste of course) more beautiful women than just about anywhere on the planet ...... of course if you like fat birds it wouldn't suit you, and if you believe the BBC or CNN you might have think there's a constant civil war .... the proof is none of the ex-pats out here are looking to rush 'home' and that says it all. The only thing I miss is the Spurs and I can see every game live, not the same but you can't have everything .......

    Now dan-spur what is it that's so great I should be missing it? f**** if I know.
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    COUNTRY no question about it.
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    [MENTION=3905]EliteKiller[/MENTION]

    Being treated like a second class citizen in your own country.

    Being battered financially because you try to work hard and not sponge off the state like most of the dole bludging cunts where I live.

    Having immigrants with more rights than a supposed citizen.

    Having a crooked government in power that was not voted in by the people. (how the f**k can that be allowed in any country even the shit ones let alone blighty a supposed superpower)

    This country is double shit...............I used to love it and stood by it and its deficiencies. I would move in a fookin flash if I could.

    Elite has it nailed.
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    Right thats is Daniel move the team to a little Provence which we will rename Tottenham in Thailand :)
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    jesus i didnt know you were irish mate,because thats just described this shitehole as well,except we have our cacks around our ankles waiting for the germans and french you bum us,its amazing we can get a 6 stone fookwit to fight anything english but a whole country just lies there waiting to be put out of its misery....im in fooking brutal form now lads cheers for cheering me up lol
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    Easy guys this thread is turning a little political which is not allowed.

    The good Rev will bitch slap you ;) I know you will all enjoy that.
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    Lol soz mate, its our government that fooked you lot too.

    I am all for starting an uprising and running this gaff our selves.

    I am off to bed before i explode with rage........................................1500 in tax this month......................IS IT FOOKIN WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    f**k that bash the government cunts...........I used to be a super mod you know...................Not any more...............Governments again...........Riv is their puppet.
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    yeah but youve done 3000 hours you nut ha ha
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    Haha nice one guys.

    Can we not start a politics thread and hide it somewhere where it does not show up on the main forum so people can vent when they feel like it.

    P Unit they are all as bad as eachother mate. Best not get worked up over it as there is fook all we can do.

    I did think about running as an independent at the last local elections but I live in such a safe conservative seat. My MP is Billy Boy Hague.

    I am having wine amd snacks with him in a couple of weeks so I can pass on a message for you if you want ;)

    He is the honnary chairman of my golf club.
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    Right now I am split between the two.

    In Mexico country is above club any day because you grow up watching the games and everyone gets together a majority of families gather around to watch Mexico on their match days. But time and time again those who run the whole show are nothing but greedy bastards who have made the team to look like ancient Aztec gods with never ending commercials and political propaganda has turned the team into a complete joke. Mexico brings in so many MILLIONS possibly BILLIONS and yet the national team has piss poor results most of the time on top of that people are suffering from the constant violence from the drug lords so where the hell is this money that could help fight this?. That's why I refuse to buy a new kit or anything Mexico national team related I have been trying to convince others to stop buying so these greedy front bum bastards are exposed for what they are and maybe things could change,.

    Tottenham I fear may be taking that same route with the things that are going on so that's why it's hard to pick one over the other at the moment.
    Javi,
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    And all the guidance for this type of thing comes from governments who set the way that people are dealt with and that private companies follow .
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    Every child dreams of playing at Wembley and scoring the winning goal in the final, right :302:?

    But, World Cups and European Championships comes every 4 years.

    To be picked ahead of 1,000s of players who qualifies for Country is an honour itself.

    Which is why I would choose Country over Club....
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    I live in Belgium so it's obvious that I take my club over my country.
    Last time Belgium went to a big tournament was in 2002 (WC Japan and Korea). With the retirement of Marc Wilmots (our most important player from those years) there followed 8 black years in the Belgian football history.

    Last years there is some kind of revival of the national team thanks to a new generation of talented players. Proving a 4th place at the 2008 olympics and some good results in european youth tournaments.
    Now they're playing with ups and downs what makes it really difficult to love seeing them play. One time they beat Russia with beautiful football, the next time they play horrible and throw the victory away.
    But to be fair, it's a young squad with a lot of marging for progression.
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    Club all day long. I've only watched half an hour of England since the World Cup.

    I might go watch England vs Wales at Wembley this year... but I'm quite interested to see how Bale will do.
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    I don't think you should ever give up on the England team. If your English and you like football you should support the England team. The trouble is that it's going out of fashion to do so. If your unhappy with the state of the country that's a separate issue. I'm sure that many Brazilian fans have had a lot more to be pissed off about their governments than us over the last 50 years but it still hasn't changed their love of football or their pride and support for the national team. If you can't get laid in England then go live in Thailand and pay for it - that is your choice - but don't confuse football with your personal issues. We are still England and at the end of the day the only thing that would surely make the whole country happy is for us to win the world cup or the Euro's. That dream is not out of the window and when we start to pick it up again people will support the team again. The world cup is still the greatest trophy on the planet and brings the most joy to the most people who win it.

    If your pissed off with England so be it, I often feel the same, but the day we win the world cup you will be happier than a pig in shit down the local cheering louder than when we won the Carling cup against Chelsea.
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    Literally the only thing I miss about the UK is football...apart from that there's just no comparison IMO.

    Club all the way for me. I love Scotland and I (occasionally) love watching them - their games have produced some of the best nights and summers of my life - Italy 1990 World Cup and the double over France - but they just don't play regularly enough to match my passion for Spurs and Dundee.
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    rossdfc I always thought you were from Singapore!

    Anyway I get your point, club football is a day to day weekly thing but international football is so spread out that club loyalty tends to become stronger than national team games
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    After the current events I am leaning more towards Tottenham :D.
    Javi,
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    love watching both.

    But club is like every week ... so when the national team plays its something "special".
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    I'd have to say club.
    Couple of reasons, i don't want some Italian bloke managing an ENGLAND team.. he picks players on reputation not on form..
    Also i hate the fact that England have some of footballs biggest names, for example.. Terry, Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney.. but no when they are all in a team together we struggle to beat Slovenia and we draw to Algeria, USA, and Montenegro.. it's pathetic. Then you get teams like Uruguay and Ghana with only a couple of well known players.. (Suarez, Forlan.. and to be frank Ghana don't have ANY players who are in the same league as Rooney!) but they get alot further than us in the World Cup. Purely because Capello's a nob who plays by reputation and that dosen't work.. Downing, Dawson, Bent, Lennon, G.Cahill, have had proper good seasons.. Blinding seasons almost! but he insists on Milner (who is utter dog shit) and that retard Rooney up front.. I know that Rooney CAN be an absolute monster. But play him for England when he hits form again. Or else you get a bunch of pissed off and angry fans who just sit and think to themselves.. why can't i be spanish? Does anybody know where i'm coming from because its been bugging me for a while! We need some fresh talent in the England ranks.. Wilshire for instance! Jesus!
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    Club but do watch country every maths so 60% club 40% country
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    75% Club 25% country.

    If England were to ever live up to the hype or the media adopt a more realistic expectation that may change.
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    Bit of both for me. I think it's a great country (and always enjoy ex-pats moaning about immigrants like that's not exactly what they are), could do with being warmer but I guess you can't have it all (and Barca's only a short hop away).

    As for the team; they're certainly hard to love, currently, but I just love international football; there's really nothing else like it (and it's the only time I get to see my mam getting all excited about sport which I find really sweet for some reason).

    That said, it's Spurs that provides the heartbeat to my day.
    rudi,
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