Mets V Yankees

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  1. madmike Well-Known Member

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    Currently in New York and considering grabbing some tickets for a game at the weekend. Got most of the rules sorted out now having watched a couple of College play off games at St George stadium on Staten Island and Yankees games on the TV. I’m presuming it’s just like any derby anywhere and just to be a bit more cautious.?

    That is if I can get tickets for three.


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    I dont think there is much animosity between Mets and Yankees. If you said Red Sox v Yankees I would definitely agree to be more cautious, but (and I could definitely be wrong) I think it will be a very casual watching experience.
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    Just be sure to plan on 5 hours and really expensive concessions. Last baseball game I went to, a hotdog cost me 11 bucks.
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    Thanks. That confirms what. I have read. Evidently supporters quite often follow both teams and it has a good history. I will pack some energy bars.

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    You'll probably be amazed at how civil things are compared to European football. As stated there are the rare bitter rivalries. But even then most fans are not enemies. And New Yorkers are all so pro New York that they get along.
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    He'll also discover how barely anyone gives two sh*ts about baseball.
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    Worst live sporting event I think I’ve ever been too, and that includes seeing Big Daddy and the boys wrestle back in the day:oops:
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    Well, it's amazing how many do actually. Baseball salaries are the highest in the world. I was a huge Orioles fan when I was young but I haven't watched in years. Mike, what you'll see will look more like a picnic than the sporting events that you are used to seeing. People sitting there sometimes paying attention, sometimes not, just talking or looking around or just zoning out. I do think that there is merit to the game, but it's something you have to follow closely the whole season to see it.
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    Drink beer, take in the sights and root for the Mets! But mostly drink beer.
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    The problem is the Mets are becoming increasingly hard to root for. No offensive players, horrendous bullpen, a depleted farm system and a POS owner that doesn't give two f**** about the ballclub and doesn't go after the best of free agents to improve the team to geniuenly challenge. I just don't get why doesn't he sell to an owner that'll spend the money the way we should. We're not a small market club, we're the NY Mets! 2015 seems so long ago, doesn't it??
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    Just FYI,

    The Mets are doing horrendously bad right now, after an excellent start; the Yankees are doing pretty good right now, after a mediocre start. Whenever one of them is bad, the fairweather fans (plastic fans) flock to the one that's doing well at the moment (which is very common in American sports)The games will be at CitiField, home of the Mets, but it probably won't feel like it because the ballpark will probably have 60/40 Yankee fans, because the majority of Met fans won't pay money to go see a trash team and of the course the plastics are supporting the other side, too.

    Unlike local European football derbies, there is no fan segregation, so you'll see both fanbases sitting next to eachother, having a good time, drinking beer, bantering, etc, and you'll be surprised to see more away fans, something unfathomable in Europe. Even if Tottenham were fighting relegation, you'd never see more Arsenal fans at WHL during a NLD, because European football fans are way more passionate and support the club, regardless of their position in the league and they usually don't sell their season tickets online to away fans either. And of course, American sports teams don't limit the amount of away fans that could go into their stadiums.

    I'm telling you this because I don't want you to get an impression that the Mets (my team) are some small team with hardly any fans in the shadow of the big bad Yankees. Granted, the Yankees are way more successful, have a larger fanbase internationally and nationally, but in New York, it's really 50/50 amongst the fanbases. Whenever the Mets are doing good, they get way more coverage and it generates more interest, because let's face it's not as common for the Mets to outperform the Yanks. And deep down, NYC is a National League town (The league the Mets play in, as opposed to the American League Yankees) because of the history and tradition of the two ballclubs that preceeded the Mets (who were founded in 1962) the Brooklyn Dodgers (Now in Los Angeles) and the New York Giants (now in San Francisco). Both those teams left in the late 1950's and their grieving fanbases, opted to wait for a new New York NL team to come, instead of following them to California or becoming Yankee fans (who both fanbases despised, apart from despising eachother). Which is why the Mets became so adored and even in their misery and failure became known as "loveable losers".

    Anyways, I could go on forever. But hope you enjoy your experience!
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    Thanks for all the tips. I’ve followed American football for years, back to the days of when it started on Channel 4 in the UK. Never been interested in baseball but as I’m visiting it has to be done if I can get tickets easily enough.
    As I’m also anal and a cheapskate I went over to Staten Island on the free ferry and I took in the college play off games there and learnt the rules by watching and google.
    I’ve since watched the games on MLB channel following the Yankees to get my head around it.
    Even the commentators have been discussing the increase in the number of strikes and that the game can be like watching paint dry. It seems the speed of the pitches has increased and unlike most other sports there have been few subtle rule changes to make the game more exciting. Like I said though I’m anal and now understand, well a bit, about the different sorts of pitch and the rotation of the pitchers and a few other subtleties. Sounds like if I do go I’ll be one of the few paying attention.
    First thing that shocked me was when I saw the wages, then I saw the amount of games and the crowds and it began to make some sense.
    I think I’m learning though as the Mrs wanted to go out and I told her I wouldn’t be long as it was 6-2 at the bottom of the 9th. Hitter was on 3-2 a full count and there were 2 outs. Only problem was that the bases were loaded and if he hit a home run it could take the game to a 10th and I’d be another 3 hours
    Only thing I can see in common with all teams is that they are all good at blowing bubbles with gum and spitting.

    Mike
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    LOL only a Mets fan would have the gall to call NY a national league city! The Yankees are BY FAR the most successful team in the history of the sport, way more successful than all the NL NY teams put together. The NL teams have always played second fiddle to the Yankees though they’ve always had plenty of fans, especially on LI.

    Anyway, enjoy the game. Baseball is a terrible sport to watch on tv (because it’s a terrible sport) but it’s nice to attend in person coz you don’t have to focus on the game much and can just enjoy a hot dog and beer and some nice chit chat.
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    Nope. And if you live in New York you’d know. New York is and will always be a NL City and even many Yankee fans have admitted this. 1) NL history was established before the Yankees even played in NY, as the Yankees played in Baltimore before 1908, if I am not mistaken 2) The Mets have outdrawn the Yankees on many occasions. From 1964-1975 and 1983-1993 and even in some of those years when they weren’t even good, they’ve done so! Now they can’t since CitiField has less capacity than NYS. But average attendance was pretty close in 2015 and 2016, two seasons both teams were competitive. The Yankees maybe way more successful as I’ve mentioned in my earlier post but that doesn’t translate to them to getting the back page more than the Mets. The Mets owned NY in the 60’s, the early 70’s the 80’s and early 90’s. If we ever get competent ownership and management, it can happen again. NY is a very fickle city. And the Met fan base does extend outside of LI, plenty of fans in Westchester and northern New Jersey as well.


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    I have no doubt the Mets were the toast of the city during the 80s and early 90s when the Mets were good and the Yankees stunk. In the 60s during Mickey Mantle’s years, fugeddabout it. The Miracle Mets year sure. For the vast majority of the history of NY, it’s been a Yankees city first and foremost.
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    It is a National League city. Even Yankee fans wish they were in the senior circuit. But they're not because they're a new team that plays with funny rules in a stadium that looks like a Caesars casino.
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    Not even. When the Mets inagurated Shea Stadium in 1964, fans flocked to see them as the stadium was considered "state of the art" for it's time, and the Mets outdrew the Yanks through the rest of the 60's as that Yankee team was already aging and Mantle had stopped being their main attraction. It's quite wierd, the Yanks remained competitve until 66 or 67 and the Mets with horrendous teams outdrew them because of the novelty of the new stadium, and another factor was that the first generation of Mets fans were all Brooklyn Dodger and NY Giant fans combined, which outnumbered Yankee fans.
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    Says the guy from Brooklyn!
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    Baseball is super slow and boring. Sometimes you'll go 3-4 minutes between balls being put into play. I mean the batter has to fix his gloves, dig in his cleats, adjust his sack, and shimmy. The pitcher has to shake off the catcher, look at the runner, shake off the catcher again, and adjust his sack. THIS HAPPENS BEFORE EVERY SINGLE PITCH

    And before anyone says I don't understand the nuances of the game... I played baseball from 6 years old to 18 years old.
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    I feel like most american boys do / did. That is until lacrosse came around and showed that there is a high paced, fun sport to be played in the spring. Glad I switched to lacrosse back in the day. Still enjoy a baseball game (to go to and have some beers whilst watching or fall asleep watching it on the couch) though.
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    Lots of little things really, very slow paced, a lot of build up and then...nothing happened, a lot of people sitting around us had basically no interest in the game, they were there for the beer and a day out, and it was constant getting up and down from my seat letting people past. With the exception of the entry fee (I think $24) everything else was quite expensive, too many assholes shouting the same shit every pitch (think of golfs “get in the hole” wankers only club), and then you realize 4 hrs later the two teams kick off again the next day, they might play 3 or 4 times over the weekend, so there was no real closure to the event I felt, imagine Arsenal beating us Friday night but we get another go at them again on Saturday afternoon, then again on Sunday lunch time, the NLD would kind of lose something?...plus I hadn’t a clue what the hell was going on either...seen live NBA, good enough day out but don’t ever need to go again, same with NHL, NFL I would go every week if I could afford it but that game is just way too expensive, your talk around 500 to 750 for two people for the day...
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