[OMT] Woolwich A [EPL] Sun 2 Dec 2018 14:05 BST

Discussion in 'Match Day Chat' started by USspur, Nov 27, 2018.

  1. HenryHotspur Well-Known Member

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    ...Anyone else hating the office start of week banter today...? :( Lots of smug Gooners....
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    He was out of position countless times during the match, but the one thing he did that really got to me was the throw-in to Foyth, back towards his own goal, when an Arsenal player was close by. Foyth made a mess of it, but the ball should never have been thrown to him in the first place. It should have been thrown in the direction of our attack. It was completely brainless and led to a goal.

    Aurier - Foyth - Jan (not fit) - Davies? Toby on the bench? Against this level of opposition? Really, Poch?
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    Poch quoted in 'papers that Foyth was the best player for us.
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    That’s worrying....I know Poch can’t destroy him publicly, that’s definitely no good for the kids confidence, but there is a time when you just have to say nothing.
    We all love Pochettino, we totally sympathize with him in his lack of financial backing from the boss man, we respect him in the way he develops players, especially the young pups among our ranks, but tactically in the big games, when it really matters he just doesn’t have the wow factor.
    Is there a manager out there right now who could make the difference for us in these type of games? Probably not, as they most likely need shit tons of cash to compensate for their lack of actual managerial ability, and if we had said cash, then I would just as happily give it to Pochettino instead.
    But the man has to cut out self inflicted mistakes, like playing Son at left wing back in cup semi finals against a team we had only beaten about 3 times since 1990, advantage Chelsea I think.....
    The point is, we can be-moan the excuses why we can’t compete with the money clubs all day long, but when we get a chance to compete, we shoot ourselves in the foot time and time again....cut it out Spurs...Please!!!!
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    Just read about the abuse given to Aubameyang. Hopefully the individuals involved will be identified, charged and banned from football. Utterly unacceptable.
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    First off, full credit to Arsenal who played great. Excellent passing and finishing from them and they out-worked us most of the game.

    Second off, Foyth for Toby was insane. Nothing more I can say about that.

    Third, our back line plus Dier was woeful. Dier, Vert, and Foyth made some of the obvious critical errors that led to goals, but Aurier was really bad too, always out of position. What I wouldn’t do to have Walker back in the team.

    And I guess Sissoko is not the Messiah after all.
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    Just read a stat that Dele only completed six passes in the second half and four were after kick-offs. Is that right? How was he that bad?
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    Only seen highlights but the most visibly obvious to me was how motivated the arsends were, not seen that in a manager and his team for a long time.
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    They played us with a similar tempo/motivation last year
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    His one on one defending is the best on the team and yes, him and Son were the best players for the team yesterday. Aurier had a subpar game and Jan was lost. Foyth and Jan partnership needs work but to single out Foyth is misguided
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    ???

    The whole backline was crap, Foyth included. I'm not singling out Foyth, but to suggest he was one of the bright spots is misguided. He had some good plays, but overall he didn't get it done.
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    Arsenal did a great job tactically. They marked Eriksen, Kane and Alli out of the game which was a risk as this allowed Son to play a free role and see more of the ball. In the 2nd half they addressed this and stopped marking Kane and instead focused on tracking Son. With service only coming from Dier or the defenders, Kane was feeding on scraps.

    Arsenal pressed our defenders and forced the long ball which led to us turning over possession more often than not. They knew Jan coming back from injury and Foyth only having a few games under his belt would both be nervous on the ball and they took advantage of this.

    Foyth made some excellent tackles and his awareness of the game seems exceptional. But it only takes 1 mistake to lose a game (as Hugo as shown us so many times!!!)
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    When you have to defend for so long in a game the chances are you will make some decent challenges....for the best part this is the same team of Arsenal garbage from last season. Their manager watched his team out play us for 40mins of the first half and somehow go in a goal down at HT, did he think, just keep doing what your doing and we will get our reward? Nope he changed it ASAP....and they won the second half 3-0 while our manager decided we didn’t need to change a thing until we needed at least 2 goals in the final 10mins.
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    Hadn't even thought of that, but this is a great observation. I think RB and LB have become a priority over CM at this point.
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    Aurier always has a sub-par game against decent opposition - it's no mystery why PSG decided to sell him to us. Half the time he looks completely bewildered at what is going on around him.
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    The back line was wrong from the start, most called it before a ball was kicked, but just to blame them directly or individuals is not totally fair, they were under the cosh for most of the game. To play in our formation our fullbacks have to be so energetic and can’t always rely on protection in front of them as we play so narrow in midfield. Our system relays so much on moving the ball quickly out of midfield to the front 4, that’s maybe Diers job 10/15% of the time but his partner should be the guy setting the tempo, and Sissoko certainly isn’t the guy for that, and tho Dembele keeps procession like an wild animal at meal times he is far too slow in moving the ball forward, Walker and Rose at their peak papered over the cracks as they more than willingly offered an outlet in our own half and drove us forward from the flanks, current fullbacks can’t do that.....world class midfielder as must!!
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    We have to address all 3 and honestly DM too. There will be some level of opportunism in terms of who is available at what price, but we dropped the ball by not addressing any of these issues in the Summer. Our needs at these positions are not new.
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    Still struggling to get over this one tbh. But look at it like this, we could have drawn both games against the Chavs and goons, and all's great not losing against two top 6 sides, and no ones complaining - but we'd have been a point worse off!
    We all know the performance and manner of the scum result was wretched. But if we can get back on track tonight, with a good performance against the Saints. The last ten days or so, will have still been pretty good results wise ........coys!
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