Ross Barkley

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  1. RKen Active Member

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    What do we think folks? One to be avoided or one to go for? I think many would have given a definite yes a few years back, but recent form seems to have lowered people's opinion of him. Me personally, I see a combination of speed, technical ability and strength that is very rare, and you can see he hasn't reached his full capacity yet. But could that be different with us?...

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    don't believe it...paper talk they make up names to make us read websites, next week someone else
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    We can only shop the bargain bin, so his poor form is what makes him a realistic target. The big question is whether he has a fixable problem or he is just not as good as people thought. I don't have a clue.
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    Can't see why we would take another risky player after Sissoko. Never looks a natural attacking midfielder to me, runs into trouble and has little creativity.
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    Isn't any player you take a 'risky player', I mean Sissoko I would say was a less of a risk player, Premier League experience and a full international. Yes he hasn't set the world alight yet so in hindsight probably not a great signing yet!

    I like Ross Barkley, I think he'd complement our team, he's not so much of a 'risky player' either, he's well proven ion the PL and he knows Alli, Dier, Kane, Walker, Rose all from England Duties, some even from the U21s, Somehow I don't see us spending big money on a player this year, one because of the stadium build and 2 because we spent a lot on one player in the summer. Also I don't think Everton will let him go so easily!
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    If we're gonna shell out that kinda money, it needs to be on someone that will improve the first team. Yes he's got potential but he's far too inconsistent, if he can't get in the Everton 1st team, then how on earth would he expect to get in our team?! It's a lot of money to throw at a player that hasn't consistently shown he's worth that kind of money, we've already had a punt on Sissoko, not sure whether we can afford to do it again.
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    poch needs to do something, otherwise itll mean kane playing most or all games till end of the season, cant see that either
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    How on earth does Barkley resolve that particular concern?

    Need a striker. Buy a striker.

    No more Son/N'jie nonsense.
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    that it... , but if u think about it, its what we need or back up for kane
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    Huh?
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    oh got all mixed up lol
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    ... it should be on a quick attacking player that can lighten the burden on Harry. Like Lacazette.
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    Matty Phillips at West Brom has really impressed as well.
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    I cannot fathom how he's been overlooked for the Scotland squad so often
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    Been listening to 5live with Jenas and Ledders, there was an interview with Dele which is on Focus tomoz, but there was also a good interview with Roberto Martinez (remember him) in which he discussed Ross Barkley and spoke in such high praise of the lad, impressed tbh.
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    Honestly i like him. Yes he is not consistent, but how many times do we saw a player got better after a move?
    He is english, physical, and technically very good. With vision too. And it is really nice if we could nicked an english talent from an europe inspired team.
    Only thing is, we are most overloaded in that area. Lamela, Eriksen, Dele, Son, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Onomah. We are trying hard to find game times for these guys as it is now. Unless Poch sees him as a CM, i cannot foresee this transfer to happen.
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    I actually think if Barkley had a more defensive streak he could work well alongside someone like Dier, Dier gives the flexibility to the CM to be out of position... which Barkley would regularly be. But it's not a problem if we account for it. The issue is when we don't have the ball, and he's in position I don't think he's quite strong enough defensively, unlike Dembele and Modric in the same positions.

    I think actually having him a little further back and making him a player that can initiate moves is probably the best place for Barkley as he can use his dribbling, and passing to find the weakness that can be exploited, then we can punish. If Poch could make him better defensively, I think he'd make a good option there, if he was cheap enough. I think he's got good vision, and when he gets on his game he's near unplayable, strong running, intelligent passer who has a good eye for goal.
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    Barkley is way ahead of Nkoudo and Onomah though so he would still improve our squad significantly.
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    Seems like a worse version of Dele to me. I feel it would hurt one of them if we had both.
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    Barkley has talent, but for some reason he has lost his way a bit over the past couple of seasons. He doesn't lack the capacity for hard work and apparently trains very hard. I feel it is likely that a change of club would benefit him and he would fit well into our squad under Poch.
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    Well we shall get a good look at him tonight


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    Whether he's good enough for us or not, Everton won't let him go to US on the cheap.
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    Great kick there into the stands in overtime. Says it all.
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    Needs a change of club ... contract running down so Everton will sell ... but for how much?
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    Yes, but do we want that? Nkoudou and Onomah shows promise, purchasing Barkley almost meant we are giving up on them. I trust Poch, so i would be happy if we got him. But i couldn't really see it, unless he plays deeper.

    Some paper quoted 30m, cause they need it to get Schneiderlin and Depay.
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    I prefer Wilfred Zaha for those prices of 30m or so, he is playing for a lesser team but playing better which means better player.
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    While I am not disagreeing with you saying Barclay is not as good as Zaha, I don't feel you argument is justified

    'he is playing for a lesser team but playing better which means better player'


    I agree with Palace being the lesser team, however a player playing well for a lesser team doesn't mean he's the better player always

    Would you take Fraser Forster over Lloris? More clean sheets than Lloris?
    Matt Philips over Eriksen? 1 more assists?
    Defoe over Kane? 1 more goal?
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    I can see your point but it is not relevant. Because we are not looking to buy Lloris or Fraser.... we are rumoured to buy Barkley now and we were rumoured To buy Zaha in the summer. From those 2, I see Zaha as a better player than Barkley WITHOUT counting number of assists, tackles won or goal scored.
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    Agree but I guess its cheaper to buy an attacking midfielder
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    Zaha and Barkley have great ability and look as though they could improve and reach their full potential but its whether they want that tbh.
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