Russia wins World Cup 2018

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  1. basskadet VIP Member Moderator

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    Oh dear ....










    .... I don't mean to sound bitter but I think FIFA have made a massive boo-boo.
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    Quatar 2022 as well!!! WTF
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    the richest ones win, wow big f*cking surprise
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    F*ck you FIFA you corrupt organisation, pull out of FIFA now let them sink in their pit of filth.

    Russia FFS not even the ruskies wanted it there, this will be one of the drabest WC Finals ever now what a joke.

    Panarama can suck my c0ck too the self serving cretins, couldnt wait 1 week to air that programe could they ffs.

    Seriously pissed off.............
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    Players will die in the heat in 2022.

    It wasnt Panaramas fault, do you think bribes were not made?
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    Panorama are not to blame mate, that prpgramme made no difference to the votes, they's decided weeks ago
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    I like Russia as a country but I feel FIFA have selected it on the same basis they selected South Africa & Russia is nothing like that. They LOVE football in South Africa & there is a carnival atmosphere in every football match.

    Russia tho can barely fill their stadia, in fact often they're practically empty, on a weekly basis. There is also going to be an issue for fans - travel across Russia is not great.

    I also think they have huge social problems in Russia which directly effect football. In South Africa they have huge social problems but football serves as a distraction, in Russia tho they still have problems with racism & violence because of football. There is lots of corruption too & I can't help feeling that 90% of the money that gets put into Russia from FIFA will only fill the pockets of politicians and fat-cats & FIFA will not see the "legacy" they were expecting.

    I really think they missed a trick with England. They think that we already have a strong infrastructure & that a World Cup would not do enough to influence the country but we have the unique ability to influence many, many people outside of England & generate a legacy all over the world. I just don't think you get that with Russia & I already see it as being a very insular event that will find it very hard to generate the global excitement.

    I genuinely think these votes by FIFA show the decline of the institution. Rather than expose the world to football & the World Cup, I think it will get less exposure & things like the Champions League & the EPL will do more across the world for football.

    I just wonder, when we are in 2016 & Russia are struggling to live up to their promises because of ever increasing costs and slow builds & re-generation, what FIFA will be thinking.
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    Did i say it was all Panaramas fault? no i didnt but it wouldnt have helped our cause one little bit knowing our biggest Media corporation (BBC) is putting out a documentary about FIFA being a corrput bunch of c*nts surely would not aid our bid.

    and the fact i called them corrupt would suggest i beleive they did take bribes ofcourse they did, the whole thing stinks the sooner Blatter dies the better the horrible fat weasel.
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    Russia and Qatar aren't richer then any of the other bids. Fifa knows it can get away with murder in those countries like the did with South Africa, 3 billion untaxed. This is disappointing because this means FIFA is more corrupt then I thought they were. Of course i'm disappointed as an American but if you were going to take the World Cup to new countries, why not Australia? I would much rather go to that World Cup in Australia then in Qatar, a repressive society with an absolute Islamic monarchy. Could you imagine if Israel qualifies for the World Cup? Or what about someone that we all know will qualify for the World Cup like the Netherlands? They aren't on good terms with the Middle East last time I checked.

    Boo FIFA!
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    And fans may die in 2022. I mean lets be real...
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    Absolute bollocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    So pissed off with this corrupt fookin Fifa. Yeah good one let's pick Russia...they don't even like football that much. GRRRRR SO ANGRY!

    Russia is the worst choice...

    1) The majority of the country doesn't care about football,
    2) Artificial pitches,
    3) Shocking weather and temperature which will undoubtedly cause problems with matches being cancelled,
    4) Most racist country in the world by a clear mile, fookin hooligan cnuts,
    5) Inflated prices for flights to Russia.

    FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Drinking alcohol in Qatar is going to be fun .................

    Don't look at the women ...... don't talk about sex ........ yah-de-yah-de-yah
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    As I said, generating excitement around a World Cup in South Africa is 1 thing.

    Generating a excitement about a tournament in Russia & especially Qatar is another matter.

    I don't want to sound bitter, Moscow & St.Petersburg will be great but it is the rest of the country I'm worried about. I'm really pleased for the Russian people but I fear they won't get the benefit from this World Cup that you would expect them to.


    I genuinely feel we've just watched FIFA shoot themselves in the foot. The Premier League, La Liga, Champion's League and so on will continue to grow in their popularity around the world but I can see, especially with decisions such as these, interest in the World Cup waning.
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    Might also have had something to do with the Birmingham/Villa fans who invaded the pitch and threw flares and plastic seats at each other. Perfect timing.
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    Corruption was to blame, FIFA needs shutting down they stink like a festering turd on a hot day.
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    Yeah and Russia has it's own issues with blatant racism and right wing activities in and around the grounds. If Israel, Romania and Nigeria qualify for the World Cup I fear for those fan bases.
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    6) Giant athletics tracks at every stadium, sh1t atmosphere.

    I'm seriously pissed off right now. England won't have hosted it for over 50 years by 2018 so that can't be a factor.

    What else could they have done? Honestly. Best stadiums, best atmosphere, great transport, stadiums spread all over the country, home of f***ing football!!

    And Qatar has serious potential to be the worst ever World Cup...especially for fans. BBC Panorama was right about the corruption, and the fact that England finished 4th/4 just confirms that for me. Agree with Bass, the interest in the World Cup could seriously go down if they keep picking these ridiculous hosts. There is NO WAY Qatar is better than Australia.
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    It seems pretty clear.

    I was pretty astounded by the Russian bid team to be honest, how Putin refused to turn up in Zurich unless Russia won (that sounded terribly arrogant to me & I could not help feeling that he was effectively saying "If England win this now after all the palm greasing I have done, then I'm not coming".

    When I was watching their bid leader scoffing at Cameron & Prince William turning up and saying "it doesn't matter what you do now" really wound me up, I don't mind saying. I could not help thinking how he could be so blasé and just felt that he was implying that Russia had done all they needed to.

    Stinks to high heaven.
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    England had D-Beck and US had Morgan Freeman/Bill Clinton tag team, what more do those people need. :y7:

    But seriously why even have the charade of bidding? Just give your checks directly to Sepp Blatter.
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    We had people the length & breadth of the country ready to celebrate if we won. Russia & Qatar win it & the celebrations seem very muted. Red Square is dead, not 1 person. I know its -18 but not 1 person??? There's no indoors parties (its cold up in Sunderland too & they had everyone gathered) & it just seems very dead.

    I just cannot help feeling that this is both part corruption & part vanity on FIFAs part
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    Yeah agreed Bass mate there was absolutely nothing in Russia organised to celerbrate ffs why would anyone want to see it go there god damn it this is so very wrong.
    We had hundreds of kids in London awaiting the decision not to mention up and down the country, sick sick decision (and not in a ganstaaa way)

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    These will be my first World Cups where I can afford to travel and neither of these locals inspire me to spend the vast sum of money it would take to attend. I would have spent the cash to go to England, Spain-Portugal and Netherlands-Belgium with a smile on my face. I was also very excited about the idea of Japan or Australia if the US couldn't pick up the bid. Sadly, FIFA picked the two worst options, in my opinion, so I will be enjoying watching the games on TV.
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    even as an outsider i think its a fooking disgrace.i went to italy 90,usa 94,japan/korea2002,all 3 were brillant trips and really well organized.i went to russia twice once with celtic and once with ireland and both were a disaster,the one with ireland i got lifted off the street by the cops at 10 in the morning{bone cold sober}and had to pay 100 quid to get my fooking passport back,they done it to loads of fans but ballsed up when they lifted an irish journalist
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    Here's Amnesty Internationals latest report on Qatar. Does anyone think it will be any different in 2022?

    Qatar Human Rights
    Human Rights Concerns

    Despite the progress made by the government of Qatar, allegations of torture and other forms of cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment or punishment continue to be reported, albeit sporadically, and there are not adequate systems in place, in practice, to ensure prompt, independent investigation of allegations of torture or ill-treatment and adequate remedy or redress for victims.

    There are indications that the police in Qatar are reluctant to treat violence against women, particularly violence within the family, as a criminal matter although such violence constitutes an assault under strict application of the law. This police reluctance to address the issue using the criminal law, it is suggested, tends to deter women from coming forward to report violence to which they are subject within the home.

    Article 35 of the new Qatari Constitution bans all discrimination "on grounds of sex, race, language, or religion". In practice, however, women remained subject to gender discrimination under a range of laws and practices, such as laws concerning marriage contracts that favor men. Women must also obtain approval from their husband or guardian before traveling, and children of Qatari women who marry foreign nationals do not qualify for Qatari citizenship, unlike children born to Qatari fathers and foreign mothers.

    Conditions of construction and domestic workers in Qatar continue to be of concern. Ill-treatment of domestic workers, delay in salaries payment, and lack of safety measures for the construction workers are some of the concern. A recent report by the Solidarity Center highlighted some of these concerns regarding migrant labor.
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    what a load of bollox. i am truly gutted and pissed off like most others here. i am going to be in my bloody 60s IF, BLOODY IF we get it 2026 or 2030.
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    Thats a big big big Shock! Seriously not only that russia won! Expect a lot of trouble with the fans in russia.



    Thats standart in russia ! :D but as long as its outside the stadium .... and the fan groups only meet its fine.

    But the worst thing is the world cup in qatar

    u guys know that in Qatar the average temperatur in july/june is 40C°

    Will be fun playing in the world cup under these conditions might see some people dying as well.
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    Exactly the same situation for me mate. I'm gonna be in my 40's by the time I can go to a World Cup :(

    I could be dead by then!!!

    Germany was clear proof that the best World Cup's are the ones hosted in (proper) Europe. It so happened the football on show in 2006 wasn't good, but the host was top class. The fact that it will be about 2030 by the time it's held in a country like that again is ridiculous. I hate how the corrupt FIFA are ruining the enjoyment for hundreds of thousands of people for the biggest sporting event in the world. I think they will find that it won't be considered as that in 20 years time if they keep giving it to these ridiculous countries.
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    To be honest, I think we have a bigger & better thing in the English Premier League anyway & I actually think that the biggest reason why we lost, aside from possible back-handers & favours & aside from FIFAs vanity that they think they can go anywhere & turn a country around, the biggest reason is that FIFA are jealous of that.

    Every week we pack out stadia across the country & nearly every game in all our 4 divisions is more exciting than even 10 minutes of the collective matches of the last World Cup put together.

    I believe FIFA had an opportunity to re-ignite the passion & excitement that should surround a World Cup & instead they have shot themselves in the foot &, in my opinion, club football will go from strength to strength & the World Cup (especially if these corruption claims are proved) will decrease in popularity.
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    bl00dy 40s lamo, i gonna be in my 60s ffs and i doubt if i will be here then lol
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    2 f-ing votes!!!

    IT IS A FIX!!!

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