So I'm watching the MLS...

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  1. Tott_BeBop Well-Known Member

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    ...and I have to say that this is ****in terrible. (Toronto FC vs Seattle)

    I'm pretty sure that I have seen better Isthmian league football in England.

    At least they've brought in a british commentator this time so it's bearable to listen to.... oh wait, until the american commentator comes on.... yup he's even ruined that to.

    So in conclusion

    a) shitty footie
    b) shitty sounding commentator who ruins the game with his input and
    c) Will the guy in the front row of Toronto FC's support please stop banging those fookin pots and pans together. It's given me a fookin headache.
    d) Good to see that ex gooner scum Ljunberg gettin sh!t kicked all over the field.
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    You should try the SPL!!!!
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    You watch MLS, you get what you get.

    The biggest problem MLS faces is that people like me, who have been around the game their whole lives, choose to watch the EPL and European footie. Just how it is, I guess.

    But I do think that as the game develops in this country and in Canada, it won't do it by copycatting the cultural aspects of the British game. If it did, there would be people slagging it for trying to be British. Either way, people will slag it.
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    Arlo White's just started commentatingh there hasn't he? I rather rate him, to be honest (and yeah, Smyth's a clown).

    The League's a little muscular at the moment but there's good stuff in there occasionally and it's still in its formative years...
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    its bad but it will grow, the german league was once one of the worst in europe and now germany is one of the best national teams ever, better than england and argentina and spain! so the league will grow, the bad thing is the americans dont care, most of them say 'its not exciting', they dont realise its not about the goals but what happens in between the goals

    the bad thing in mls is that what happens in between the goals is not always nice.. not like europe
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    well typical american fans just wants goals. so therefore soccer (and hockey for that matter) will never really grow. however for me i don't care if a game ends 0-0. i just want chances to be available to score. therefore if you don't see any goals atleast you know you watched the keeper make a good ammount of saves.

    MLS is still pretty new and with the money they are allowed to spend you obviously will not be getting great players to the league. also one of the things that will help is as americans grow up being exposed to the game more often then that will have more wanting to grow up to play the game. i typically do not pay attention to the commentators though as they (in all sports really) don't contribute much to what is going on.
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    I know the game is no where at the level that UK/Ireland folks are used to but its all we have. with three or four players in a game that could make a lower epl side getting paid 10 fold what the rest of the team makes you wont get pretty football.
    As far as the fans go Toronto and Seattle have amazing fans. I'm not into the drums either but for north American fans they are amazing. 20000 strong on a cold raining Canadian spring day really says something.

    if you didnt know the salary cap for a mls team is about 2.5 mil american. (1.5 milion pounds) + a designated (if you want) player who only counts 250000 towards the cap. and it has to be this way for now according to mls management. to carry the teams that have really low attendance unlike seatle and toronto. All teams have to abide by these rules its called parity and it sucks.
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    What about the Galaxy surely Donovan and Beckham get paid more
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    Not sure what American's you are talking about, but most people I know love hockey. It can be low scoring, but with the boards and hitting it makes the game that much better. You couldn't have said it better about how the majority feel about soccer though. Too slow, too much build-up, not enough goals. My roommates give me shite for it all the time when I turn on the EPL or CL football. In due time the sport will grow though. Hopefully the WC this year will turn a lot of heads as the US squad has a great chance of making it out of group stages. Lots of people are excited to watch it which is great.
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    what part of the US are you from? Here in Louisville, or further south it isn't the case. Hockey is in reality a fringe sport. now i love hockey and because of that have found a league to play here in Louisville. however the vast majority of people i know won't turn hockey on unless its on NBC sadly.
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    thats the whole designated player part. their salary only counts on that 250k part no matter how much more they get paid than that ammount.
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    I'd rather pay the extra $15 a month to watch the SPL on setanta than the MLS on CBC for free. Sorry, but it has to be said.
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    I gotta agree with you spl is miles ahead and it deserves 2 be.

    Im just torn about the mls. For me its a building block. i dont really like the way its being run but young american and canadian talent have a league to play in.
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    This region's football overall is crap Mexican league is mediocre at best I won't go into another MLS rant:p but the truth is truth this region's football is crap.

    Instead of establishing it's own style of football they try and copy another region's style and as I said before as long as they keep calling it soccer it will be down in the list in the US.
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    What do you suggest they call it? They already have football and soccer's a perfectly good name for it. Much better than people who call it footy for sure.

    Ice hockey's popular mostly in the northern states (and sunny Canada, obviously) but lags a fair distance behind the NFL, MLB and NBA when taken nationally. Football's finally being given a decent foundation; it'll just take a while to find its feet properly. The FA didn't spring into life fully formed, after all...
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    They need to call it football or at least use the Spanish word Futbol either ways it would be alot easier if they called American football tackleball which is what it is in the first place.:p
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    showing your age there TK, it's called the Ryman League now :)
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    No, The MLS guy didn't have to do anything, Just touch it with his toe and its in
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    That makes sense then as I'm from Metro Detroit. Too bad to hear about the lack of interest down there as they are all really missing out.
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    You kind of have to like hockey in Detroit though; what else you gonna do, go watch the Lions and Tigers?? ;)
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    MLS is a tough sell in the US sports market falling well behind the usual suspects: baseball, football, basketball, NASCAR, etc. BUT, it is slowly but surely growing. Toronto averages over 20,000/game and Seattle averages over 36,000/game (with more than 22,000 season ticket holders); according to World Soccer, that puts Seattle among the top 50 clubs in the world in average match attendance. TV broadcasts have improved, but it is still very expensive to run a club: for a league match in Philadelphia, for example, Seattle has to travel more than 2,000 miles; not exactly a coach ride, is it? MLS has a lot of faults (e.g., low overall quality; physical play; poor officiating), but it is getting better and more of our MLS players are appearing in European leagues including EPL (Howard, McBride, Dempsey, "Dozy" Altidore, Stuart Holden, etc.). Listen, we get more than enough trashing from our local baseball and football talking heads, so I would hope more "soccer" forums will support building the game in the US and not trash it.
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    I concur, going to the Crew v Fire game this weekend with my fiancee. its not Spurs match but MLS has to start somewhere and i'm willing to toss some money to help it grow. Go Crew!!!
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    Just a quick note to all the yanks out there: The US has been `developing` footie for over 40 years now... and still nothin....
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    Got as far as England, and farther than both Italy and France.... I'll take it.
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    Watching Schelloto is always fun... he even had a nice hand ball the other night. Hopefully Frankie will be back in action soon.
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    Sure, we had the NASL 40 years ago. But that was largely a European star retirement league rather than a league to develop US talent. In fact, it's mostly been since the '94 WC and the inception of the MLS that US talent has begun developing on a national scale. GKs were the first wave...makes sense since we play most sports with our hands. But now you're seeing more field players graduating from MLS to Europe. College soccer is still the bane for most players in the US (we use college as the gateway to the professional level) that puts many US players behind the power curve. That's why MLS is so necessary and you can see it's working as the US is appearing in consecutive WCs. Of course, we are not at the level of a Germany or Argentina, but we are becoming increasingly competitive with most second-tier national programs. It's still an uphill battle, but we're trying our best.

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