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  1. boo Staff Member

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    there are some heavyweight names in the cup this year so what do you think? i've gone for (in no particular order)

    Anderlecht, Atletico Madrid, Dynamo Kiev, Lazio, Paris SG, PSV Eindhoven, Athletic Bilbao, Schalke, Standard Liege, us.

    but yeah, i guess a lot depends on how serious each teams competes in the competition. here is the list of teams currently playing;

    AEK Athens, Lokomotiv Moscow, Anderlecht, Sturm Graz, Atletico Madrid, Udinese, Aust. Vienna, AZ Alkmaar, Besiktas, Dynamo Kiev, Birmingham, Club Brugge, Braga, NK Maribor, Celtic, Rennes, FC Copenhagen, Hannover 96, FC Metalist Kharkiv, Malmo, FC Twente, Odense BK, FC Vaslui, Sporting, Fulham, Wisla Krakow, Lazio, FC Zurich, Legia Warsaw, Rapid Bucharest, Macc Tel-Aviv, Stoke, Paris SG, Slovan Bratislava, PSV Eindhoven, Hapoel Tel-Aviv, SV Salzburg, Athletic Bilbao, Rubin Kazan, Tottenham, Schalke 04, AEK Larnaca, Shamrock Rovers, PAOK Salonika, Steaua Bucharest, Maccabi Haifa, Vorskla Poltava, Standard Liege
    boo,
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    You mean the Europa League Boo?

    For me it's Spurs, Atletico Madrid, FC Twente, Udinese, Braga, Lazio, PSG, PSV, Schalke and Standard Liege.
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    yeah, sorry mate, i was talking aboot the europa league
    boo,
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    I'd have to go with: Bilbao, At. Madrid, Spurs, Lazio, Udinese, PSV, Schalke. I don't know how Bilbao did this week, but they sweeped the first 3 games, in a relatively difficult group too. I've been watching them mostly because of Llorente, but he hasn't impressed me that much. Most of it because of the poor service, but I'd really need to watch more. Schalke of course have a very strong team, as do Lazio. I think we could see Fulham if they make it past the group stage. They have the experience, as does their manager thanks to us.
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    Standard Liege sucks big time this year. They sold their most important players (Defour, Witsel, Carcela...), even in the Belgian league they struggle to be top 5.
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    Atletico Madrid, Udinese, FC Twente, Lazio, Paris SG, PSV Eindhoven, Athletic Bilbao, Rubin Kazan, Tottenham, Schalke 04
    Maro,
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    They finally sold Stephen Defour? Let's see who to...

    Porto huh. He'll do good there, but I think he should have gone to Bundesliga... he's a player who I've been loosely foolowing since he was a teenager, imo will never become anything big. But this just further proves how horribly weak Belgium is at football. If he played in a top 6 Eredivisie team, I bet they would have been able to hold on to him. Also shitty Chelski hammering their champions in London... I mean United were able to score how many goals at home against a Romanian club whose highest transfer ever cost 85,000 pounds... I'm dissapointed by Belgium, had such a good squad in the 80s, and such a developed nation.
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    Oh, just wanted to say Belgians have some of the fooking COOLEST NAMES EVER!!!!!!

    Axel Witsel, Eden Hazard... god!! I totally want a Hazard/Belgium shirt unless he moves to a club I like I'll get the club one then.
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    Well Porto is famous of shining the footballer profiles and sell them 2 3 times more than their real value. I would not be very surprised if we see Defour moving to a big team in a couple of years for shitloads of money.

    Also, Turkey was in the same group with the Belgium in the qualifications and I was at the stadium when they played here. They really have a good and balanced squad but they miss some experienced guys in the middle. They are still playing like rookies at times and need someone to regroup them.

    I believe they need a good striker though. They put too much pressure to a 18yo boy, they should give him some time to develop his play.
    Maro,
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    In the Netherlands they also can't keep their players.
    Ruiz: Twente to Fulham
    Suarez: Ajax to Liverpool
    Stekelenburg: Ajax to AS Roma

    It's all about money these days, who the hell wants to play in Belgium when he can earn double the money in another country.
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    I understand, and agree that Holland league is also weak, but it isn't on the same level as Belgium. Belgium imo is on the same level as Romania, and that's a shame because Belgium is far too developed to be considered into the same category as Romania on any subject matter. They used to be really good, back in the 80s Anderlecht and Standard were all over Europe, with Gent and Brugge to smaller extents. I'm positive Belgium is going to increase their level up a whole lot in the upcoming competitions for this decade, considering the squad they have, and I'll be rooting for them as I have always appreciated both Holland and Belgium.
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    Good point on the Porto note, and I agree with the rest of what you said. A veteran playmaker in the center and a veteran striker would almost complete that team full of young massive talents.
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    I agree with the fact that we need a more experienced striker, but in the center we are settled with Fellaini, Witsel, Defour and Simons. You should also have a look at Vadis Odjidja from Club Brugge. He's a great player also ready to take a next step in his carreer.
    A more important problem with Belgium is that they have not a single full back worthy to play in the national team. Now guys like Vermaelen, Vertonghen, Lombaerts and Alderweireld (all of them center backs) play at those positions.
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    I agree that they're full of quality CB's. But in the midfield, although Witsel is very good, Defour solid, and Fellaini I see more as a destroyer than a playmaker; they just don't have that experience. I'm talking about someone like Pirlo or Xavi. If you watched Italy in the WC, you would have noticed that whenever Pirlo was on the field, they were 4 times better than without him on the field.
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    You need help !! LOL
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    You're telling me you wouldn't want "Hazard" on the back of your shirt? Think how cool you'd look.... :y6:
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    Schalke vs. Athletico was a fabolous game! Schalke should have won though.
    It's fun to watch the EL, i like this competition
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    It was a crazy game, wasn't it? Personally I think Schalke were a bit naive trying to play at that tempo even when they went in front - it really opened them up to Bilbao's comparative advantage.
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    It was definately a bit naive, I guess they thought a 2-1 advantage won't be enough considering the away game against Bilbao.
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    I think you are right and certainly that is a reasonable concern to have but they could still have attacked without such ridiculously fast transitions and committing so many forward. There were several times when they were trying to play so fast that they pushed the final pass which was then intercepted and resulted in a Bilbao counter attack with numerical advantage. I think Raul would still have got some shots on goal even if they played more measured, he was having such a good game. Now barring Huntelaar making up for his lack of performance with a massive game in the return leg, they face an almost impossible task. My brother-in-law would have been very frustrated, I bet he didn't have a very nice drive home.

    If Raul had got that penalty when he nutmegged Llorente and got dragged down they probably would have sat on 3-1.

    Farfan had a really good game considering how much he was being fouled.

    Bilbao played a great game, never gave in and have pretty much set themselves up to go through.
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    I hope we sign Llorente, he's got it all!
    I didn't know he is that fast! And he is dangerous in the air, exactly what we need! A better version of Ade.
    I was cheering for Schalke since i lived in germany for a long time. They deserved to win but like you said they weren't watching their defence at all.
    Now it's all over for them. At least they can concentrate on the league now.
    But i really don't get how Bilbao is only 11th in the Spanish league?!
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    Don't know if we're on about the same incident, but there was one I saw where it looked a blatant dive from the camera angles I was seeing... still a a cracking game regardless.

    I can't see Schalke getting through now, they need to score so will have to come out and attack, and as long as Bilbao shown up they'll be able to exploit that. Can't see for the life of me how they're 11th in La Liga! :117:
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    Same here mate. This is the same team that outplayed United over 2 legs putting 5 past them, and have just put 4 goals past a decent Schalke team, away from home, when they didn't even play that well!
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